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    The Best Entry-Level Pipers

    Longtime Piper pilot and Piper twin owner Kristin Winter discusses the cream of the crop in entry-level Piper aircraft. (Photo: James Lawrence)

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    Short Wing Pipers

    Out of a poor economy came a series of aircraft that were better than expected. (Photo: Peter Lubig)

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    The Piper Navajo

    After initially feeling intimidated by the size of the Navajo, contributing editor Kristin Winter found that it really one of the easiest and most gentle aircraft she had flown. (Photo: Paul Bowen)

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created a new topic ' Kit instructions 765-186' in the forum. 4 days ago

Hello, does anyone have a copy of the instructions that come with kit 765-186? It is for installing new ammeters referenced in service bulletin 811A from the mid '80's. I need to verify some incorrect wiring on an aircraft and the kit instructions should have the info I need.

Thank you.


STEVE ELLS replied to the topic 'Surefly Sim 4P Initial Feedback Archer II Mar 2020' in the forum. 5 days ago

Hi Paul;
That's just the kind of feedback everyone's looking for.
Thanks for your help,


phaney replied to the topic 'Surefly Sim 4P Initial Feedback Archer II Mar 2020' in the forum. 5 days ago

Update: Just completed another transcon (KPGA - 2R4) in the Archer. Fuel flow per hour with the Surefly mag and 120kts (75% power): 11.5k = 7.9 gallons, 9.5k = 8.3 gallons. Surefly's estimate of savings of 1 gal per hour is accurate. In my case I'm saving more than that probably due to high cruise altitudes.
Paul Haney, ATP